October 17, 2011 Community Forum

Curran Stone, Baynew Development, developer

Car storage building business.

Jan 2008 – Nov 2008, Bayview complex

Garage condos.

Partner with John Taylor, LTC.

Delayed grading permit…over 90 days.

DHEC permit had to be re-filed.

No one voice from county staff on similar questions….lack of code understanding from county staff.

Staff response: “That’s just the way it is” (meaning the process)

Issue with requirement for sidewalks in development.

Water line installation – finally had to put in three, cost $250,000 out of budget.

East Richland County staff was unaware of his development.  Took 1-1/2 years to get plans approved.  Requirement to pre-pay for water tap/plumbing installation costs.  

Inspectors have made onsite requests that are not concurrent with the approved plans from the permit set.

Impact on small businesses is tremendous.

Comparison between Columbia and Charlotte (50 years later).

Airport is substandard for international travel.

Fire marshal request for fire suppression in paint booth.  Official has the final word, but there is no code requirement. 


Ben Arnold, contractor/developer

Staff and city staff have been very helpful; however, the ordinances are not developer friendly.

Zoning ordinance needs to be a smoother process.

The rules: The City

o 96 principal uses

o 1-11

o 23 service 

Mid 90’s project: Jillian’s PUD process.

PUD has to many restrictions. 

Landscape ordinance is too complex to comply with at times, not much flexibility.

County: water/sewer $620 sewer tap fee/calculations…equation for determining the fee is too convoluted.  There should be a standardization which is determined by local officials and not influenced by the federal regs..

Fire and life safety requirements/IBC requirements are….

Landscaping show be look at on a case by case situation.


Al Timmons, Timmons Contracting, small office/upfits/remodeling

Less complex issue:  Plan review period is too long.

For small business, this is too long.  Realtors/tenants have a 30 day turn around policy.

Plan review process could take longer if comments have to be addressed….a two week process can easily turn into 4 weeks.  Recommend that plan reviewer focuses on noting that the comments were addressed and approve plans in two or less days.  This really impacts tenant move-in.

o Comments: door swings, counter top heights, 

o Has had experience with 

800 sf to 24,000 sf type renovation projects.

Post inspections have been going well, overall….

No issues with getting C.O.; however, fire marshal has requested minor changes.  The requirement for a fire marshal inspection varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.  This should be improved


Michael Quinn, Ellis/Lawhorn, & Sims Law Firm

Conditional approval leads to a process

Plan review taking 2 and 3 times to get approvals.  Recommend that re-reviews be done by one group to finalize the process. (Hasting’s, Albuquerque, NM)

Public works…contacting staff have been difficult.

City/County tree ordinance are misaligned.


Sam Johnson, City of Columbia – left early. 


Hal Stevenson, Rental homes 

City is focused on the rules only!!!  They cannot think beyond the ordinance’s words.  Allow the city staff to make improvement recommendations.


Carter McEntire, McEntire Produce, Inc.

One project, 165,000 sf facility

Why did Amazon, BMW, Boeing go to other places instead of Columbia???

What’s going to make Richland Co. competitively regionally?

One idea: Eliminate the business license fee (tax)!  Milage fee??

County’s interpretation of the law.

Limited to no..


Mari Detens

Issue with business categories inflexibility….lack of common sense.

Contact and return call from staff.

Search for a 2007 surety bond took about three weeks.

Outsiders are discouraged.

Lack of customer friendless


Mary Brewster, CB Ellis Development Co

Competition with Lexington County, same day permitting from them.

Small businesses drive the community

City sewer tap fee: Krispy Kreme $70,000 sewer tap impact fee in a change of use from bank to restaurant.

Another project: old restaurant (vacant for 7 years) into a new restaurant.

• No tap fee for fire sprinkler in Mt. Pleasant.


Mike Irons, Sonic

Winston Salem, VA.  Richmond, KY

Common sense does not exist.

Have been able two projects built in other cities before getting one built here.

Give staff the power to make sensible decisions on site without reprimand.  


The next meeting was set for 11-2-11 at 4:00 pm at the Chamber.

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